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02-03-2012 06:25 PM
    This issue has a great article regarding modification of a home bathroom for a handicapped person.  It has an excellent array of pix with great grab bars.  I really like the drain trough along the front edge of where the former tub sat.  The guard over the trough makes it easy for those who have to rely on wheelchairs for mobility. 

    Two criticisms stick out since I live with a woman who is totally dependent on someone else for everything in her life.  A portable chair for showering will be helpful to the handicapped person.  That is nice so it can be moved to get the person in or out.  Also, that allows the caregiver to put the person near the water controls. 

    First criticism:  Remember that the person may not be able to stand, so the handheld should be low enough and within reach of the bather. 
    Second criticism:  The bather needs shelves or something on which to place soap, washclothes, shampoo, and any other items of necessity.  This is their time for a few minutes of independence.  Let's design and build it for those who may not be able to stand.  If a person can't lift their feet to get over the lip of the shower pan, it's most likely they will sit in a chair.  It's not reasonable to assume that the person is going to be standing. 

    Now, I've said my peace.  For those who are trying to help parents and partners who are immobile, please feel free to contact me with your questions via PM.  Thank you for listening.

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    02-04-2012 03:08 AM
    Good points, Swampgator.

    Using the ADA measurements for heights and widths and what not, are fine for hotels and public spaces as those dimensions are an effort to make policy for a "one size fits all" method of thinking.

    But in our homes, it's always best to install these things tailored to the person requiring them.
     
    Don't be too concerned about resale value or feel you are limited to ADA requirements.

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    02-04-2012 12:05 PM
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    02-04-2012 02:37 PM
    Thanks, Gents.  Was showing this article to the MS support group this morning and one lady said they put her handheld shower up high, so her husband has to get it down and put it back for her.  Then she has no place to put her toiletries while showering.  So, it was a good discussion. 

    Craig and Dewey, I really appreciate your support.

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    02-04-2012 07:18 PM
    Posted By swampgator on 02-04-2012 03:37 PM
    Thanks, Gents.  Was showing this article to the MS support group this morning and one lady said they put her handheld shower up high, so her husband has to get it down and put it back for her.  Then she has no place to put her toiletries while showering.  So, it was a good discussion. 

    Craig and Dewey, I really appreciate your support.


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       "What Special Needs Need." 

     The lady that has the hand held shower to high.

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      They may fix it the way it needs to be. 

      Company may listen to you.

      Government Guild Lines are Government.

      You want to be Custom to the Individual.

      They may even help you in getting started on setting a standard.

     All they have to do is listen.


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    02-05-2012 05:07 AM
    Thanks, Gator. I'm headed in that direction now with the bath facilities and was wondering what to do. I'll probably be PMing you.
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    02-05-2012 06:30 AM
    Here is standard if you can afford it.

    http://www.deltafaucet.com/shopping...ing-system
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    02-05-2012 07:22 AM

    Gator:
    Do you remember a short time back we disscused this issue of remodeling a bathroom to fit a handicapped person? Well here is a site that shows the "Sliding Shower Head" with a grab bar as part of it. It's mounted vertically and the shower head slides up and down for each bathers preference. The mounting bar the shower head slides on is also useful as a grab bar. There is a variety of styles shown here and I do believe this type of equipment is available at most Big Box stores. 

    If you scroll down toward the bottom of the page they show an adjustable bathing chair also.
      
    http://www.amazon.com/Adjustable-He...B002L0CPK0

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    02-05-2012 08:28 PM

    Scooter, thanks for the vote of confidence.  I don't know if anyone would want to read such a boring book.  But, I suppose I could help it by pictures. 

    Thomas, will be very happy to offer thoughts and suggestions.  You are one of those that I think of when I look through these issues.

    Ron, thanks for the link.  That's a great shower.  Some thoughts about it.

    First, the controls are near the seat.  Excellent.  Shower head is located within reach of person sitting on seat. 

    Secondly, the shower is wheelchair accessible and looks nice.  The drain is located in a excellent place without much serious modification. 

    Thirdly, the seat is only good for those who don't have any incontinence issues.  For those who have incontinence issues, a seat with a bucket underneath would be better.  Like this one:  http://www.activelivingnow.com/Show...2-1900.htm

    Also, if the chair is portable, it may help to move the person into and out of the shower stall.  The size and layout of the bathroom may have some dictation.  As Craig so eloquently stated, build it and equip it for the intended person.  Ask questions about what the person needs and make it accomodate their needs.  There are many more thoughts that should go into this.  I don't have the building experience, but the plastic seems very expensive as compared to some Krete(sp?) board and tiling.  Also, if you do tile, same a few back just in case the valve should ever need to be accessed or replaced.  Often, when tiles are made, they make only a certain number and then change the molds.  So keeping some back to replace chipped, broken or removed tiles is a wise investment. 

    Again, if I can be of assistance, please PM me. 

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    02-05-2012 08:35 PM

    Barry, the sliding shower head is my preference as you so well said that it can be adjusted for all users.  Also, it's not expensive.  This is what we have and when company comes, they can slide it back up so they can have a normal shower.  When wife needs her, it is then adjusted for her and she is independent in this process.  Thanks for posting this and yes, I remember our earlier discussion.  I'm glad the magazine had this article.  I hope this discussion is helpful to others who may need to think about this stuff.  It's not what we prefer, but we can make it work for changes as they occur.  If we as consumers push the builder and realtors for these features, it will be an option in new houses.  We have the power.  Let's use it.

     

     

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    02-05-2012 09:46 PM
    Just a quick point. It isn't just disabled people that need the sliding shower head. In my old house I had a handheld shower head. After my father died, my mother came to live with me. I was over a foot taller than her. For the shower head to hang at a comfortable height for me, my mother had trouble reaching it. In any house with a handheld shower, I would think that the sliding shower head would be an asset.
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