Posted By djchoate1 on 07-12-2010 05:35 PM
Since you are talking about the videos- here is my opinion. I am one of the unfortunate ones with dial up. It takes about 20 minutes to download a 2 and a half min. video. It isn't your fault. Any thing you guys can do to help instruct is great. Not all of us are know- it-alls. With your help I guess we can become know-it-somes. djchoate1

That's very unfortunate.
There is no way to compress the data any further than it is now in the video stream and retain any type of quality.
Dial-up is a big problem for videos.

If I had more time, right now I don't, I would offer to download the videos you are interested in and put them on a DVD or CD and mail them off to you for the cost of postage. Maybe later in the year I might do that just to have them on-hand for this possible scenario. Then again they may have some nasty protection on them that makes downloading them darn near impossible. I'll check into the possibilities and get back to you via PM on it.

EDIT: OK, there is no practical way to download the videos, but they can be recovered from a browser's cache, saved and written to a CD or DVD. Send me a PM with an idea of what ones you'd like to see/have and we can work something out for the cost of postage and discuss addresses. Just trying to help you with a work-around for your dial-up problem.

Gerry,

Your efforts here are honorable, but I think you had better check with HCOA/NAMG on any copyright restrictions regarding redistribution of their videos.

Even though you may not be charging a production fee, other than postage, you could be opening a can of BAD from NAMG if you're not given explicit written permission from HCOA/NAMG to distribute their copyrighted videos via CD/DVD or otherwise. (Be warned...Law enforcement personnel can find you, even if you're using an 'anonymous' P.O. Box address, if they really need to.)

Now, I think it would be nice if THEY (HCOA/NAMG) would make them available in that manner (maybe annually or bi-annually) through an on-line or a mail-in order form included in the magazine for those members that may not have internet or for those that may have limited(dial-up) internet access. But for a member to distribute HCOA/NAMG videos on CD/DVD through the mail, on there own and without permission, is probably not a good idea.

Granted HCOA/NAMG 'probably' won't sue you for millions of dollars because you sent one member a CD containing their copyrighted videos, but they could if they wanted to. More than likely you would probably just get a "cease-and-desist" request from their lawyer.

At any rate, share what you want with whom ever you want, but DO protect yourself and don't make it public knowledge that you're doing so.

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I could imagine, which doesn't take much, as it is typical of NAMG, that they might take this idea and run with it making it another 'Exclusive Members Only' offering.

Naturally, they would charge about 30 bucks annually to subscribe to a 'bi-annual video series' with the option to 'cancel at any time'. But also, as is typical, they will send a member the CD/DVD "for preview" and follow-up with demands for payment or request that it be returned, even though it was never requested or ordered by that member.

Posted By bikebuilder on 07-28-2010 10:12 AM
Gerry,

Your efforts here are honorable, but I think you had better check with HCOA/NAMG on any copyright restrictions regarding redistribution of their videos.

Even though you may not be charging a production fee, other than postage, you could be opening a can of BAD from NAMG if you're not given explicit written permission from HCOA/NAMG to distribute their copyrighted videos via CD/DVD or otherwise. (Be warned...Law enforcement personnel can find you, even if you're using an 'anonymous' P.O. Box address, if they really need to.)

Now, I think it would be nice if THEY made them available in that manner (maybe annually or bi-annually) through an on-line or a mail-in order form included in the magazine for those members that may not have internet, or for those that may have limited(dial-up) internet, access. But for a member to distribute HCOA/NAMG videos on CD/DVD through the mail, on there own and without permission, is probably not a good idea.

Granted HCOA/NAMG 'probably' won't sue you for millions of dollars because you sent one member a CD containing their copyrighted videos, but they could if they wanted to. More than likely you would probably just get a "cease-and-desist" request from their lawyer.

At any rate, share what you want with whom ever you want, but DO protect yourself and don't make it public knowledge that you're doing so.

ALL VERY GOOD POINTS, BikeBuilder!
Thank You!

it was offered in good faith to a co-member, but since he hasn't been back and didn't respond to a PM on the subject, I strongly doubt it will proceed.
It seems the videos were clipped from several "master videos".
It would be interesting to know more about those.

Posted By jbily831 on 12-14-2007 02:20 PM
Just got done watching the video on different glues and altho it was informational I don't think that everything was covered. It left me with a question about the gorilla glue. The instructions I have on my bottle tell me to spread the glue on one surface and wet the other surface then join them. The video did not cover anything about the wetting of the other surface. So does this mean that the glue can be used without wetting the other surface and if so will it be just as strong or not? I feel that this is an important thing not to omit from the video as it could result in unwanted results. Other than that they were informational.
Harold/jbily/(Oscoda,Mi.) Another Mans' Trash Is Most Likely My Treasure!

I have 2 bottles of Gorilla glue here, the first one is one I purchased at Lowes' and requires dampening of one piece of wood with water while you apply glue to the other.  The second bottle is one I got to test through HCOA and is a new formula of Gorilla Glue, and does NOT require the dampening of the opposing piece of wood, but used the same as you would a white or yellow carpenters glue.  I hope this answers your question.  Sorry I didn't see this earlier.

Gerry D your advice on posting has been well noted, and I see from this example thread here, that you have provided for me, has enlightened me to alot of aspects to consider when posting, I read everyone's feedback and I thank you once again for letting me see and learn from this, Thank You. You guys are very busy here, and I just want to give a big holler, WAY TO GO GUYS, I appreciate what your doing. And really glad you all tell it like it is, Thanks.I'm sure when I get to posting videos in the future, I'll stumble and fall, but with all of your help, I know I'll do great sooner than later.

I liked what I saw in the woodworking videos. I thought they were short...would have watched a longer, more thorough coverage of the topic. One criticism, the editing seems chopy. One started in the middle of a conversation. Another one was listed as two parts but when you click on either part one or part two, you got the same video.

Some are funny as all get out, some are just plain stupid, some are idea-invoking.  But you really should get a new editor/ proof-reader; or send him/her back to school.
Case in point:  The April 18, 2011 video sent in the news letter "Most Mesmerizing Chainsaw Video". 
     Your comment "We can't tell you why, exactly, but we found ourselves locked into this video. There's not a man or women in sight, so the human-interest angle is not there. There's no dog on a journey home to get teary about.
   No body in sight?  Who do you think is operating the Bobcat the thing is mounted on?  They don't, cannot, run by themselves.. If your editor/proofreader even bothered to watch your own video to the end, you'd see the operator in the cab backing up and turning to get another log. 
  Want to watch more?  Go Here:  http://www.hahnmachinery.com/fp160.html.

Otherwise, good magazine, fairly good website.

Is that a 3 year old post?

I am very happy and interested in seeing more of them.

Gary,

I haven't watched the videos here, but I have watched videos that took as much as 40 minutes. The secret to the length of time I'll watch has to do with the content. If I feel the video is showing me how to do something in a manner that is interesting and informative, I'll watch it to completion, no matter what the length. Obviously, a lot of topics can be handled in a couple of minutes or less.
Making the videos easily accessable, and providing a list of videos available is key to letting everyone know they are available. 

A poster asked how to use a multimeter on the forums today. This could be the subject for a video if not already available. 03/01/2012

Great post cedar, I seldom look at the home page on my way to the forums, maybe they should add a forum page for the videos and the feedback from the members.

Cedar:
I'm with you and think that would be greatly appreciated and watched by many members on the "How Too" for Multimeter's. Now Gerry D. either sent me a personal e-mail or PM. I checked the Electrical post all the way back to Aug. of '08 and didn't find it, so I either missed it or he never posted it on the Forums. It's a great help for us novice elec. members. I would like to either see Gerry post it on the Forums or as you suggested a Video would be great. I wonder if there is any Video's on U-Tube or anywhere else on the web.

Posted By Oldman on 03-02-2012 05:05 AM
Cedar:
I'm with you and think that would be greatly appreciated and watched by many members on the "How Too" for Multimeter's. Now Gerry D. either sent me a personal e-mail or PM. I checked the Electrical post all the way back to Aug. of '08 and didn't find it, so I either missed it or he never posted it on the Forums. It's a great help for us novice elec. members. I would like to either see Gerry post it on the Forums or as you suggested a Video would be great. I wonder if there is any Video's on U-Tube or anywhere else on the web.

Normally these how to's Gerry does on his website or in a pdf file.  If I can remember tonite I'll ask him to respond.  I know he is busy with his brother and all.

Posted By Dewey on 03-02-2012 11:42 AM

Posted By Oldman on 03-02-2012 05:05 AM
Cedar:
I'm with you and think that would be greatly appreciated and watched by many members on the "How Too" for Multimeter's. Now Gerry D. either sent me a personal e-mail or PM. I checked the Electrical post all the way back to Aug. of '08 and didn't find it, so I either missed it or he never posted it on the Forums. It's a great help for us novice elec. members. I would like to either see Gerry post it on the Forums or as you suggested a Video would be great. I wonder if there is any Video's on U-Tube or anywhere else on the web.

Normally these how to's Gerry does on his website or in a pdf file.  If I can remember tonite I'll ask him to respond.  I know he is busy with his brother and all.

If my memory serves me correctly, Gerry never actually published a 'finished product' instruction on this site.  I think he was corresponding with several of us with 'draft' editions on parts of the instructions.  He was soliciting both review comments and ideas.  He and I has several e-mail exchanges on the subject.  I think his stuff was in MS Word format, not PDF.  It has been quite a long time and I am not sure I trust my memory, so I may be way off base. 

I will be pretty busy today, but when I get a chance I will try to search to older computer downstairs. 

Bompa, after reading your post I think you are right, I remember him saying about that now.

Dewey and Oldman,

Not that it is pertinent to videos, but if you are looking for stuff from Gerry regarding the piece he was writing on "Digital Multi-Meters" (which he shortens to DMM), try the time frame just before Christmas 2009. For some reason I don't have any of his attachments (that I can find anyway) but I did find a small series of e-mails about his DMM document between Gerry D, John Lowe (Slug-Gunner) and myself dated 22 December 2009. I am sure that, at the same time, Gerry was carrying on conversations with both of you and possibly others.

From what I remember, his stuff was well written and very well illustrated with photos. I also remember the document getting very large (in megabytes) because of the many photos. E-mail limits really put a hurt on dealing with such large documents.

Bompa/Dewey:
My print out Gerry provided me is 10 kgs. of text and photo illustrations. The first two pages are hard to read due to an accidental spillage of coffee in the shop. He labeled this as "Down and Dirty Quick basics for Multimeter Version 09" I remember he told me that several of you guys were working on a project to have this published either on the Internet or in the club Magazine. I went back to Dec. of '09 and did not find any post there pertaining to Multimeter's.

I just sent Gerry an IM on this

So the DMM from Harbor Freight is back to haunt us?

LOL,
Sorry Guys I didn't finish it as other things were on the "front burner".
But a link to the "work in progress" is here....

 
Gerry's Harbor Freight DMM


 If there is an interest, I'll try to get it finished this spring.


Gerry

PS: sort of reminds me of this....

Gerry puts in an outlet....

 LOL

EDIT: Since my computer with all this on died, I did get a copy from the hard drive, the only problem is when I'll try and make a PDF of it as my PDF software does not work with Windows 7. It was working on the old Windows 2000 system.

AH HA!!! Now I know why I don't have any of Gerry's documents. We were discussing a document that he kept on his web site.

Gerry, this time I am going to grab the document(s) so I will have them readlily available on my computer. That is, if it is alright with you. Just say the word and I'll delete my copy if that is what you want.

Think I will jump over to AzGrannie3's thread on this multimeter and give her a link to look at.