Ideas/suggestions on joining methods for bookcase/shelving project this week...
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stringfrenzyUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:13
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05-19-2012 07:09 AM
    I hope this is the right place for this post.  I was hoping to get some ideas or suggestions on joining methods for a project that I wilol hopefully be doing this coming week.

    A few details:

    My wife and I have been remodeling a room of our house to turn it into a craft room for her to be creative with her crafts.  I have done 1 wall completely in pegboard to hang different crafting items and supplies on and hope to add a shelf or maybe even cabinets across the top of that wall later.  2 more walls hare in the process of being done in 4' x8'  1/8" white melamine panels to brighten the room, make for easy cleanup, give her a GIANT dry erase board for patterns and such and also to give the grandkids something to do with dry erase markers at times.  All this seems to be coming along nicely and seems to serve for many different applications.

    The last wall I was thinking about building a bookcase or shelving that would be attatched to the wall after being built.  Thought I would use 1" x12" pine to buil a storage area or bookcase/shelving approx 6' tall x 6' wide x 12" deep possibly with both fixed and adjustable shelves.  Have not decided yet wether or not the shelves will be painted or stained.  

    My question is:

    If you were going to do a project of this type what would you use for your method of joining boards and why just out of interest?  Would you use dados and rabbets, pocket hole, dowel so on so forth.  Would you use a different material?  I also plan on having some sort of hard board or backer board on the back to hide wall blemishes and keep things looking neat.  What say you all...does it sound silly?  Am I wasting time?  Any feedback and ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  TIA
    Stringfrenzy
    hrhelmUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1543 Avatar
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    05-19-2012 08:28 AM

    The way I have done several shelf/bookcases.
    I would go with a good cabinet plywood and use dado slots for shelves, glued and sprigged with finish nail. Use a3/16" ply backer board in a rabbet slot for the back and nail through it to the shelves. If the shelves need to support a lot of weight, add a 1 1/2" facer board to front for additional support. White pine works for this.
    Once it is built run the router with your favorite molding bit around all exposed edges, sand, stain, and varnish.

    Not trying to tell you how, just telling you my method.

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    JSchabenUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1231 Avatar
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    05-19-2012 08:35 AM
    Hi - about all I would add to HR's response is to consider dividing it into two or three sections. 6 ft is a pretty long span for shelving. If you can't divide it down, you may consider support cleats along the back and/or banding along the front edges.
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    stringfrenzyUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:13
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    05-19-2012 08:56 AM
    Good ideas and suggestions so far. Yes I had planned on staggering the shelves. None will run the full span also They won't be holding alot of wieght. Mainly various crafting supplies. Thanks guys for the info so far.

    Thats why I asked the questions I did was to get different insight and input on it. Sometimes looking at things from a different point of view can help shape a project too.
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    DeweyUser is Offline Senior Poster Senior Poster Send Private Message Posts:9108 Avatar
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    05-19-2012 11:33 AM
    I would combine both HR and John S's ideas. I would also build the carcases from a good grade 3/4" plywood, and dado in the top and bottom as well as one lower shelf to add stability and use adjustable shelving for the rest. The face frame I would make after the cases are in place to make it look like one continuous cabinet system. The face frame I'd made of solid wood. I usually just glue my face frames in place and affix with as few finish nails as possible. Somewhere here I have posted a photo of a shelf hole jig I made which uses a router and guide kit to make the holes. It's simple to build and easy to use. Here's the link http://www.handymanclub.com/forums/...fnp/275689
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    stringfrenzyUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:13
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    05-19-2012 07:30 PM
    Also a good idea. Thanks for the reply.
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    johnboy14527User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:18 Avatar
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    05-21-2012 11:59 AM
    You may want to look at making a seperate base two or three ins tall to get level for your shelf or book case to sit on, it helps in older non square/level floors.Just easier to handle than the full size. Learned the hard way making from hardwood two 3ft units to go side by side.
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    DeweyUser is Offline Senior Poster Senior Poster Send Private Message Posts:9108 Avatar
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    05-21-2012 01:58 PM
    Johnboy, thanks for pointing that out. I had made plans for doing a similar system for my BIL using a seperate base to set the 3 units on so I'm surprised I forgot to even mention that. Good catch.
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    05-22-2012 06:50 AM
    Posted By johnboy14527 on 05-21-2012 12:59 PM
    You may want to look at making a seperate base two or three ins tall to get level for your shelf or book case to sit on, it helps in older non square/level floors.Just easier to handle than the full size. Learned the hard way making from hardwood two 3ft units to go side by side.

    Also a good point to think about.  I"ll keep it in mind since it seems little in this house is square.  Thanks.
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    05-22-2012 03:49 PM
    I agree with the build process the H.R. mentioned. Take it from someone with a 100+ yr old house, definitely use a separate base that you can level prior to assembly. Also, if you are installing on a carpeted floor, make the base 2" shorter in depth than the shelves. The tack strip along the wall will cause the shelf to lean forward rather than sit flush with the wall. I am currently working on a closet system that is basically turning the back wall into a series of shelves. I decided to make a combination of boxes (some 12" x 12", some 12" x 24") that I can configure however I need them. By using this setup, I hope to be able to accommodate taller items in some as the 12" x 24" can be stood on end if need be. Additionally, with uniform sizing they will still be able to have flush sides. Maybe helpful, maybe not . . . but my two cents worth
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    05-22-2012 03:52 PM
    Also, make sure you take into account the height of any storage containers she will be using on these shelves. Nothing worse than finishing the project and then realizing you can't find storage containers to fit the shelves that she can use. Been there done that!
    Keith A.K.A. Mr. @#$%^%&$#^ A man's home is his castle - People enjoy the position of rulers in their own homes, and others have no right to enter without the householder's permission.
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    05-22-2012 05:03 PM
    Posted By Alterego71 on 05-22-2012 04:52 PM
    Also, make sure you take into account the height of any storage containers she will be using on these shelves. Nothing worse than finishing the project and then realizing you can't find storage containers to fit the shelves that she can use. Been there done that!


    Keith, that's the beauty of adjustable shelving, provided you have the length of course.
    Hope you both will post before, during and after shots of your projects in the Members' Photos section, we love pictures as much as we do dnouts. 
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    05-23-2012 07:00 AM
    Good points with the storage containersbut with adjustable shelves I think we'll be ok.

    Good thinking about the carpet tacks but the floor is already down and tile..

    Stringfrenzy
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