non load bearing walls in a basement
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craigUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:4568 Avatar
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03-23-2012 01:28 PM

This is how the framing around the window should be (by code which is the minimal standard):




That double plate above the window window roigh opening should be at least a 2X6.

You'll also need to sister a full height 2X4 to the left and right of the window framing between the sole plate and double plates.

Looking at your photo, you can cut out the framing around the window and build/install/nail this configuration in.

Also, I would highly suggest/recommend that you install two top plates.  After a close review, as good of a job as you've done to date, you will run into problems when you get to the point of hanging drywall/sheetrock/gypsum wallboard. 

When you do start, begin at the outside wall since that's the shortest amount of vertical area/stud area to secure the drywall to.

There isn't what is considered to be much of a nailing board.  What are you going to use to finish the walls/ceiling with?

Also, the framing/rough opening around the door should be very similar to the drawing above.

Again, you're doing a great job.  But from a contractor witrh a strong architectural background, you're cutting yourself short.

beanman1User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:24
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03-23-2012 04:34 PM
You had me running back down stairs to remeasure the window.

Both of the sections of the windows pop out, so she could get the full window opening for an egress if needed.

The window opens @ ground level, so she won't have any falling distance when she climbs out.

Measured the window height and the base of the window is 3.5 ft from the ground. Guess a bench is getting put in front of the window...
bompaUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:4514 Avatar
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03-23-2012 06:25 PM
Posted By beanman1 on 03-23-2012 05:34 PM
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Measured the window height and the base of the window is 3.5 ft from the ground. Guess a bench is getting put in front of the window...

Code rule, I believe, is 44" maximum to the actual sill.  Some people say 42" but I think they are talking framing.  You are at 41" so should be  fine.  Does your daughter know how to open it?  You are also OK on the 5.7 square feet.  That rule is actually for firemen trying to get in with full gear on.  They can break away the center divider to get the space they need.

In a child's room a bench or something similar below the window is always a good safety practice.

I was going to ask earlier if it opened into a window well, but you answered that one.  That issue opens up a whole bunch more egress questions. 


Bob Hoyer ......... Bremerton, WA
beanman1User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:24
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03-23-2012 07:01 PM
Yes, she knows how to open it.  She'll probably be out of the house way before I would be in the event of an emergency...

But now the walls are all framed and done, my back is sore as all get out, and my right arm is so wore out, I can barely pick up my beer...
ron 45User is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1541
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03-23-2012 10:05 PM
How much can you hear what goes on in the basement?
For as much as you make access to get out, you make access to get in?
I would install some type of alarm to the window that would sound in the master bedroom and the main part of the house. This would serve more purposes then just one.
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03-23-2012 10:07 PM
How much can you hear what goes on in the basement?
For as much as you make access to get out, you make access to get in?
I would install some type of alarm to the window that would sound in the master bedroom and the main part of the house. This would serve more purposes then just one.


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03-23-2012 10:09 PM
Thanks Dewey... I have two daughters that are grown now, with 4 grandsons.
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03-24-2012 07:09 AM
Craig,

These are non-load bearing walls. Does the code still apply?
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craigUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:4568 Avatar
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03-24-2012 07:58 AM
Posted By Landfillwizard on 03-24-2012 08:09 AM
Craig,

These are non-load bearing walls. Does the code still apply?


From the architectural courses I've taken, every wall bears a load of some sort. 

What is considered to be a load bearing wall has a significant amount of weight being supported. 

The nonload bearing wall is merely dividing an area (partition wall), yet it is supporting the weight of the joist run directly above it (as the years go by, the house/structure settles).  For these walls, a single top is permitted, yet must be secured with 16d nails.  Some areas of the country may require blocking in the corners.

When it comes to wall framing or framing the rough openings of doors and windows, the code (minimal standard) ensures rigidity and resistance to motion and warping/twisting as well as strength (structural support) and resistence to weather.

Also, what I wrote under the picture is inaccurate.  I meant that the double header needs to be 2X6 minimum, not the double plate.
beanman1User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:24
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06-05-2012 05:29 PM
As I stated in my electrical thread, sorry for being so long for an update. Had the guys from Buildings & Codes come out to do the rough inspection on the framing and electrical. Good news is I don't have to tear everything down. Only thing he said I needed to add with my framing was a permanently positioned 'step' under the windo because it's so high off the ground. He said 2ft high would be good.

Thanks again for all the help you guys have been!

Now to hang drywall...
beanman1User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:24
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06-20-2012 04:12 PM
Got the electrical done and working, so now working on the drywall.  The project finally gets to move forward!

I would add photos, but the file size limit is making it a little difficult.  Gotta get the images edited down to below 500KB and then I can show ya'll my crude effort at dry walling.


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