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Gerry_DUser is Offline Senior Poster Senior Poster Send Private Message Posts:5311 Avatar
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05-25-2010 10:05 PM
    OK, Guys this is for the newbees…….

    How these forums work….

    Imagine a tall cabinet with a lot of drawers.
      

    Every one of the drawers is a forum area, (plumbing, electrical, new members etc.)

    Now in these drawers are folders, these folders are the topics.


    You can make a new folder or topic yourself, but more on that later.

    Now every one of these folders or topics contain the messages people post, just like writing something on a piece of paper and putting it in the folder in our imaginary drawer of this big file cabinet.


    So lets say you browsing around in the forum, you open one drawer on Plumbing, you see all the file folders with tabs and writing on the tabs, those are the topics, you choose one in the beginning of the drawer to look into.
    The topic or tab says “toilet problem”.
    You open up that folder and in it is the first page that has a question from someone that started the topic.
    He asks; “My toilet runs all the time! How can I stop it?”

    The next message is by someone else, he says to check the flapper valve.

    The next message is by someone else again and he explains how to adjust the float.

    A third message, again by someone else asks about a carburetor problem on a lawn mower.

    Wait a minute!
    What the heck is this doing in this folder? It don’t belong here, it’s called “hijacking”.
    That is when someone either does not know how the forums work or just does not care.
    He might never get an answer from someone that knows lawn mowers, because that person won’t be looking in a plumbing drawer to help someone out with a lawn mower problem because it just is not right.

    The point here is put your questions about a problem in the right drawer or no one will find them and for someone looking in that drawer, it’s a little upsetting to see that sort of mistake. If that were to continue, the forum would be a mish-mash of all unrelated things!


    Just try to find something in that pile of junk!


    Now let’s say you are a new member.
    To get started on the right foot, you should read the forums for a few days and see what goes on.

    Then you should go to the New Member’s area, or drawer, and make a topic or new folder, ( some people call it a thread. ) The title of this should be something like; Hi All, My name is (your name).
    Then in the message area underneath you should repeat that and more, like where you are from, maybe your age, touch on your experience, like; “I do my own plumbing work.” Or; “I am a retired plumber.”
    Be brief, maybe 50 to 100 words, not your whole life’s history.

    You see, that message is in the right place, it’s not attached to someone else's message it’s your OWN!



    The same holds true after you get your introductory message out.

    So you are this plumber that posted in the new member’s area, you have a question about electricity.
    You should go to the Electrical area or drawer and start a new topic or folder in that area or drawer.
    Your topic should be your question in brief, like; “Help replacing a three way switch.

    Then in the body of the message describe your question in greater detail…
    Hi, I need help replacing a three-way switch. I tried but somehow I mixed it up and it doesn’t work properly. Can any one help?

    Then submit the question.

    People will come back with advice and maybe more questions like what colors are the wires in the switch box or other related questions.
    Answer them if you want help!

    Just imaging you are that plumber, you needs to know if that guy with the toilet checked something and asked that question.
    The guy never came back.
    Wouldn’t that make you a little upset?

    Here you are a retired plumber with years of experience trying to help someone out for free and they don’t even bother to answer your follow-up question! It sort of makes you not want to participate or help the next guy out.
    So, answer the questions people ask you the best you can, they are trying to help and need more information in order to help you!

    Finally, when you read all the answers and get that pesky three-way switch working just like new, stop back and say thanks!
    It’s the polite thing to do.


    Again, imagine you are that plumber, you helped the guy with the toilet-running problem, his flapper valve was worn out and he replaced it just as you suggested and now his toilet isn’t running anymore.
    He stops back at the same plumbing area and in the same folder and leaves a message that says;
    “Thanks, (plumber’s name), that was it and it’s working just fine now!”

    That makes the retired plumber feel better that he helped someone and he is more likely to help someone else just because someone said thanks.



    Now those are the basics, there are bells and whistles in the forum that you will learn about later.

    The key is to be polite, answer questions, try and be to the point, (most of the time) and treat others like you want to be treated.
    Help others when you have knowledge of the subject, if you don’t have knowledge, don’t attempt to answer, that just confuses things, instead read and learn so when you have that problem, you will know the answer!



    I know others will comment on this or ask questions, but before you ask any questions read it all over a few times and try to think it out.

    If you have comments, please keep them related to this.
    No hijacking please!
    It may make you look bad to some people.


    Enjoy the forums and remember this is MY explanation and not an official one.

    It is not for any one person, it’s for all new members that have never experienced forums before.

    This community is the sum of the knowledge of all.
    Only we must communicate that knowledge to each other via this forum.
    Participate, Teach and Learn

    Cordially,


    A veteran
    - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve -
    is someone who, at one point in his or her life,
    wrote a blank check made payable to The 'United States of America',
    for an amount of 'up to and including their life.'


    LPeekUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:50 Avatar
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    05-25-2010 10:13 PM
    at first i saw the message the first thing that popped into my head was oh s@#$ a testI hate tests then read on oh it isn't atest it wasa picture example cool that was very helpful Gary I am going to save it in my favorites soI can keep it for refferences Thank you
    If you first don't succeed try, try, try again Lonnie Peek
    DeweyUser is Offline Senior Poster Senior Poster Send Private Message Posts:9107 Avatar
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    05-25-2010 11:34 PM
    Gerry, that was a great explanation, and for those who chose to keep reading the reeplies, I went to the top of the page after reading it, and in the upper right corner, I clicked on the 5th star.  What this does is rank the post as being a great post to read, and that I feel it will help others. If you think likewise, please, go to the top of the page and click on the appropriate star, and show your appreciation for the OP (Original Post, or first post in the thread, or as Gerry would have said in his example, first paper in the folder)

    Kudos on an excellent thread Gerry D. 
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    WoodwizardUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:3210 Avatar
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    05-26-2010 05:08 AM
    Excellent Gerry. Very well put and basic.

    That's so easy a caveman could understand it.
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    Admin WesUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:45 Avatar
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    05-26-2010 06:54 AM
    Ha! Great work. I may be out of a job...
    efmaronUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1459 Avatar
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    05-26-2010 07:08 AM
    Nice going Gerry
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    Gerry_DUser is Offline Senior Poster Senior Poster Send Private Message Posts:5311 Avatar
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    05-26-2010 08:36 AM
    Thanks guys I hope it helps the new people.
    (that was one heck of a lot of hunt n' peck typing! )
    (Thanks also Sixty, I was hunt n' pecking while you were entering your message)
    Near the end and for the edits, where I tried to get out the typos, they were working on the server so it was not really responsive.
    There are still at least two typos and I wish I could have tweaked the second image a bit smaller.
    But it will have to do.

    AdminWes:
    It's not really worthy of it, but maybe you could ask the "bit-junkies" if there is a way to get something like this in a permanent status.
    Not exactly this one, it needs more polishing, but if the topics at the absolute top of the forum could have the messages transferred to the bottom topics and that TOP forum area reserved for worthy forum related advice posts, (to be entered only by Admin), (possibly renamed), and set up so the topic is locked allowing no replies and the forum area is locked allowing only you or one of your minions to stick or transfer stuff to there, it just might be a good idea.

    In other words, make that a Read Only area.

    Just my humble suggestion....

    This community is the sum of the knowledge of all.
    Only we must communicate that knowledge to each other via this forum.
    Participate, Teach and Learn

    Cordially,


    A veteran
    - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve -
    is someone who, at one point in his or her life,
    wrote a blank check made payable to The 'United States of America',
    for an amount of 'up to and including their life.'


    Sixty_VetteUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:2519 Avatar
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    05-26-2010 08:40 AM
    Great job Gerry - guess no need for a video! 



    “Vettes Rule!!”

    Sixty_VetteUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:2519 Avatar
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    05-26-2010 08:41 AM
    Posted By AdminWes on 05-26-2010 07:54 AM
    Ha! Great work. I may be out of a job...



    DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT WES!!!!!!!! 

    It is great having a presence here from Handy we can communicate with!  In the past just seemed like our comments/complaints were falling on deaf ears!







    “Vettes Rule!!”

    Horace PuckeyUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:2103
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    05-26-2010 10:09 AM
    You DA MAN Ger but one thing confuses me --how can "my name be your name"? LOL
    Bill So Cal
    smiller19User is Offline Basic Poster Basic Poster Send Private Message Posts:141 Avatar
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    05-26-2010 12:22 PM
    Well done Gerry!!!!!
    If at first you don't succeed, throw more money at it!
    SWilsonUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:2748 Avatar
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    05-26-2010 12:49 PM
      This cave man wants color photos with circles and arrows with paragraphs on the back of each one.  Is that too hard? 

    Great job and thanks for the great explanation.  Very patient person, you are, Gerry.

    Steve - Don't fight life, learn from it. - Nam vet 68-70-Shopsmith owner (1984 and 1985) Life Mbr - 4/2003
    DeweyUser is Offline Senior Poster Senior Poster Send Private Message Posts:9107 Avatar
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    05-27-2010 06:18 PM
    BUMP!
    Anything worth dewing, is worth dewing well!
    I'm dewing my time in southwest Indiana.
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    Gerry_DUser is Offline Senior Poster Senior Poster Send Private Message Posts:5311 Avatar
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    06-02-2010 09:34 PM
    For YOU, SwampGator...


    If you look on the back there is a paragraph for you as well...



    This community is the sum of the knowledge of all.
    Only we must communicate that knowledge to each other via this forum.
    Participate, Teach and Learn

    Cordially,


    A veteran
    - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve -
    is someone who, at one point in his or her life,
    wrote a blank check made payable to The 'United States of America',
    for an amount of 'up to and including their life.'


    Bubba_MoCityUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1985 Avatar
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    06-03-2010 10:07 AM
    ROTFLMAO - Good one Gerry!
    Bill, but many know me as Bubba - (SW of Houston)
    I'lltryUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1357 Avatar
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    06-03-2010 07:58 PM
    GerryD Wrote:

    If you look on the back there is a paragraph for you as well...



    Good luck with that, He probably pasted it to the thread.


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    I just got lost in thought. It wasn't familiar territory.

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    Admin WesUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:45 Avatar
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    06-04-2010 06:49 AM
    Yes, very funny!
    kwjd1User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:55
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    06-04-2010 11:19 AM
    Well Gerry you definitely did a good job on explaining how the forum works this time, I feel like it was my fault, but it's so much clearer for any new member that I'm glad I clicked your name in the beginning and drove you nuts, that dinner party was cool for conduct but didn't explain much, I'm really glad and that caveman thing,where did you get my photo from?
    Sixty_VetteUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:2519 Avatar
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    06-04-2010 11:42 AM






    Gerry I am surprised you didnt modify that pic a little! Since you didnt - I did!!!



    “Vettes Rule!!”

    DeweyUser is Offline Senior Poster Senior Poster Send Private Message Posts:9107 Avatar
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    06-04-2010 11:44 AM

    Posted By Sixty_Vette on 06-04-2010 12:42 PM






    Gerry I am surprised you didnt modify that pic a little! Since you didnt - I did!!!

    OH oh Bob, he may try to use this as his avatar now and we'll be blown off the page again.
    Anything worth dewing, is worth dewing well!
    I'm dewing my time in southwest Indiana.
    Useful links below :
    NEW MEMBERS; PLEASE READ FIRST
    also;
    For New Members....

    Welcome to the forums!
    TO VISIT MY BLOGSPOT...
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