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Tiling Tactics


Setting a beautiful ceramic-tile bath floor


By: Joe Truini, photos by Geoffrey Gross

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Glazed ceramic tile is a near-perfect material for bathroom floors. It’s extremely durable, relatively affordable, stain- and skid-resistant and waterproof when properly installed and maintained. In addition, tiles are readily available in dozens of colors, styles and sizes, and you can install them yourself.

Here we show how to upgrade a bathroom — in both appearance and durability — by replacing an old vinyl floor with glazed ceramic tile. We chose a random pattern that includes 6 x 6-, 6 x 12- and 12 x 12-in. tiles. Combining the three sizes not only creates an interesting design but also reduces the number of tiles you need to cut.


Prep the floor

Before laying tile, you must prepare the room by removing the old floor covering and installing cementitious tile backerboard. This is crucial because the key to a long-lasting tile job is a rock-solid, stable substrate.

The first step requires a little plumbing work: You must remove the toilet so you can tile right up to the drainpipe in the floor. Turn off the water supply to the toilet by closing the shut-off valve, which is typically located directly behind the toilet. Flush the toilet; then use a sponge and a small cup to remove any remaining water from the bowl.

Next, pry off the trim caps from each side of the toilet base to reveal the closet bolts. Use a wrench to remove the nuts from the bolts. Then grasp the toilet bowl and gently rock it back and forth to break its seal to the floor (photo 1). With the help of a friend, carry the toilet out of the room and set it on an old towel or blanket. Stuff a rag into the toilet’s drainpipe to block sewer gases.

Now pull up the old sheet flooring, starting in one corner (photo 2). If the floor is covered with vinyl tiles, you’ll have to pry them up one at a time using a stiff-blade putty knife and an electric heat gun. If the existing floor is ceramic tile, the quickest way to remove it is with an electric demolition hammer fitted with a wide-blade chisel. (You can rent one for about $50 a day.) Once you’ve removed the old floor covering, inspect the wooden subfloor for signs of rot or damage, and repair or replace the wood as necessary.

Next, use a flush-cutting handsaw to trim the bottoms of the doorstops and doorjambs so the tile will slip underneath. Lay a piece of tile backerboard and one tile on the floor in front of the door frame to create a cutting guide. Lay the saw on top and cut through the doorstop and jamb (photo 3). Remove the wood you cut from the door frame; then vacuum the floor.

Mix up a bucket of latex-fortified thinset mortar with water and let it slake, or rest, for 10 to 15 minutes. Then use a 3/32-in. notched trowel to spread an even layer of thinset across the subfloor. Set a sheet of ¼-in.-thick tile backerboard into the thinset (photo 4). Be sure the fastening guide embossed on the sheet is facing up. Fasten the backerboard to the subfloor with 1-5/8-in.-long backerboard screws (photo 5). Space the screws 8 in. apart or as recommended by the backerboard manufacturer.

Now cover all seams between the backerboard sheets with 2-in.-wide fiber-reinforced backerboard tape (photo 6). Spread a thin layer of thinset over the tape and over each screwhead. Allow the thinset to cure overnight.


Set the tile

Begin by mixing up a bucket of latex-fortified thinset mortar. Again, let it slake for 10 to 15 minutes. Then use a 1/4-in. notched trowel to spread thinset across an area no larger than about 2 sq. ft. (photo 7). Tiling small sections at a time allows you to work at a more leisurely pace.

Because the room dimensions perfectly accommodated our tile pattern, we were able to start tiling in one corner and work our way across to the opposite wall (photo 8). However, when using tiles that are all the same size, it’s best to start in the exact center of the room and work out toward all four walls. That’ll create a balanced pattern with equal-size tiles around the room’s perimeter. When you must trim a tile, use either a score-and-snap manual tile cutter or an electric wet saw, which cuts with a diamond-impregnated blade.

Continue spreading mortar in 2-ft. squares and setting tiles across the floor (photo 9). Some floor tiles have small bumps, known as spacing lugs, protruding from each edge. When the tiles are butted tightly together, the lugs create evenly spaced grout joints. If your tiles don’t have lugs, insert rubber spacers between the tiles. Gently wipe any mortar from the tiles using a damp rag; then let the mortar cure overnight.


Grout the joints
The next step is to fill the joints between tiles with grout. Use nonsanded grout for joints that are 1/8 in. wide or narrower; for joints wider than 1/8 in., use sanded grout. Mix the grout with water to the consistency of thick mayonnaise. Remove the rubber spacers (if applicable) from between the tiles and force grout into the spaces using a rubber float (photo 10).

Scrape up any excess grout; then wait 20 to 30 minutes for the grout to firm up. Gently wipe the tiles clean using a damp cloth, being careful not to wipe the grout from the joints. Wait another hour or so; then buff off any remaining grout haze from the tiles using a dry, clean cloth.

Next, attach a new wax toilet-bowl gasket to the toilet’s drainpipe (photo 11). Set the toilet back in place and press it down into the wax gasket. Then carefully tighten the nuts on the closet bolts and replace the trim caps. Reconnect the water-supply line to the toilet and open the shut-off valve. Flush the toilet a few times and check for leaks. Wait at least a week; then apply a coat of silicone sealer to all the grout joints to protect them from cracking and staining.


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Haackstan

Location: holly, MI
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Posted:9/1/2008

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Looking forward to my first tiling job.

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jondozer

Location: bella vista, AR
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Posted:9/9/2008

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I am getting ready to do my first...guess I still need to get my backerboard. The question from me is: Should you lay out and precut the tiles so you can just go through and lay them down? Also, Do you really need backerboard if it is a small bathroom with a stable subfloor? Thanks for your help!

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sean578

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Posted:9/12/2008

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Is there anyway to view the pictures without opening then closing them one at a time?

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mantisguy

Location: stratford, ON
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Posted:9/22/2008

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What if you are on a concrete floor, do you still use backerboard?

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hornp

Location: inez, KY
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Posted:9/22/2008

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jondozer YES- I would absolutely use a backer board - that's what keeps the tile from cracking or coming loose from the floor. maintisguy No - concrete should be okay, but use caution - some morter doesn't stick to straight concrete very well, and if the concrete has been sealed, you'll want to do some prep work to make anything stick to it..

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Grampa On The Go

Location: forsyth, MT
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Posted:9/22/2008

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In my humble opinion, based on several hundred square feet of ceramic, vinyl and even ceiling tile installations, you have overlooked the most important, basic and primary requirement of any tile job. The layout of the grid pattern is critical to a professional looking finish. It does no good to have expensive tile and not take the time to verify all four margins for size. It may take several tries, and even some dry layout work, but it is well worth it in the end. You don't want a full tile along one wall, then a thin sliver of tile along the opposite wall that will probably end up being less than straight anyway. By figuring out your layout ahead of time, it will also greatly help you navigate around vanities, tubs showers, kitchen cabinets etc. If you are not sure how to figure out the margins, I'm sure there are flooring magazines or professional flooring installers who would be willing to help.

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Oldman

Location: owosso, MI
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Posted:9/23/2008

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A "Dry Fit" is a must on any floor installation whether it's Ceramic, Marble, Slate or even Vinyl. Then adjust the first row to end up with an equal size tile on the opposite wall for an even look and no little sliver to fill in. Start in the farthest corner of the room and work toward the exit door way. If you start in the middle and work out you will end up working on "Top" of freshly laid tile and possible moving the tile out of alignment from your weight and movement. Not a good idea. Test the floor if it's concrete for bond-ability. Spray it with water and see if it absorbs the water or it sits on top due to a sealer. Lightly spray a concrete floor before spreading the thinset will reduce the amount of wicking the dry concrete will do to the moisture in the thinset. The thinset needs to cure slowly for a good bond. Cut your tile as you go for a good fit. Pre-cut Tile can get mixed up during installation. Or at least only a few ahead at a time. Prep work is essential for a Pro-Looking job. Measure, measure again and then do a "Dry Fit" first. Don't forget the spacers when you do a "Dry Fit" and remember to do one on the width and length of the room. Backer board isn't nessasary on a solid sub-floor but is highly recommended in the even of any future house shifting or movement that could crack the grout or tile.

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moddog

Location: lansdale, PA
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Posted:9/23/2008

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I see in photo 6 you put the tape down on the joints. And in photo 7 you are getting ready to put the tile down.With out putting thinset on the screw head and seams and letting it set over nignt.

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ELACO

Location: newport news, VA
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Posted:9/26/2008

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Why is it that the print pdf does not work? I am a life member & I only visit the site once a month, because I cannot get the full information I need with the projects you show. I use other sites to get the information with photos.

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ELACO

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Why is it that the print pdf does not work? I am a life member & I only visit the site once a month, because I cannot get the full information I need with the projects you show. I use other sites to get the information with photos. ed

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checkmayte

Location: comanche, OK
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Posted:9/27/2008

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Lot's of great information here, Personally when I am doing tile jobs, I like to do my layout first also...I will find the center of the room thus breaking it down into 4 sections. I will then start the process at one of the back Quadrants working my way back to the door, However this only works for a square pattern, With a random pattern as this bathroom floor has it just takes a little more math to figure. Excellent job on your floor sir !

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yorelra1

Location: marietta, GA
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Posted:10/5/2008

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This whole article and comments are apparently still in the dark ages. Get up to date! There are new products out there that allow tile to be set on almost any surface WITHOUT removal of the old unless it is in bad condition. One would think that one has done ALL the research before writing an article that leaves out progress. My goodness, surely it is better to explain how too's using current technology?

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dalfredh

Location: saint louis, MO
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Posted:10/6/2008

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If I am going to tile the walls as well should I start with the floor or the walls? I plan on using the same tile on both and I want them to line up at the edges and corners. Which way is best to start the project??

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Oldman

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dalfredh: Click on Community at the top. Then Forums. Join up with the Handyman Club Forums with the greatest bunch of Members Posting and answering questions like yours. You have a auto problem... Go to the "Automotive Forum". Need help with carpentry... Go to the "Carpentry" Electrical, Plumbing etc. etc. You will find your answers. In your case I would post in the "Remodeling and Repair". Good Luck' "OLDMAN" aka brye1

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Kent_carson

Location: apo, AE
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Posted:10/23/2008

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I just completed my first foor tiling job, a bathroom adn entry way. Sounds like I did things about the same way you did, with the exception of I did not spread the grout the way you did. I used 1/4" joint spacing, so I used a grout bag to "inject" the grout directly into the joint. My tiles were all 12" x 12", so that may not work with smaller sizes. I sealed the grout after three days, per instructions on the sealer. Looks like you did a great job. It is a lot of working on your knees, but tiling is a great surface forr floors

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bobstime

Location: goleta, CA
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Posted:12/31/2008

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Is it just me or was omitting the removal of the baseboards before removing the old floor and reinstalling it after the tile set is complete?

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mokee

Location: santa barbara, CA
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Posted:1/1/2009

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I was told by a tile man that in leiu of backboard that red guard will work very well. Anyone know about this?

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mokee

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I was told by a tile man that in leiu of backboard that red guard will work very well. Anyone know about this?

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mokee

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I was told by a tile man that in leiu of bacerboard that red guard will work very well. Anyone know about this?

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schmitty1123

Location: oconomowoc, WI
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Posted:1/21/2009

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Personally i have done a couple of tile floors and if you have a good sub floor you dont really need the bacerboard and for the other question you had was about precutting and laying them all out first personally i like to cut as i go so i dont waste any if i screw up before hand but personally it is all personal prefrence on if you want to precut or not

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Personally i have done a couple of tile floors and if you have a good sub floor you dont really need the bacerboard and for the other question you had was about precutting and laying them all out first personally i like to cut as i go so i dont waste any if i screw up before hand but personally it is all personal prefrence on if you want to precut or not

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schmitty1123

Location: oconomowoc, WI
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Personally i have done a couple of tile floors and if you have a good sub floor you dont really need the bacerboard and for the other question you had was about precutting and laying them all out first personally i like to cut as i go so i dont waste any if i screw up before hand but personally it is all personal prefrence on if you want to precut or not

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ScottD5547

Location: n franklin, CT
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Posted:1/25/2009

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Which is the best way to do this, install the vanity and then tile up to it or have the vanity out and tile the entire floor and install the vanity on top of the tile?

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l.seebeck

Location: oklahoma city, OK
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ScottD if you have the vanity out by all means tile under it you do not have to cover the whole area row of tile in the back and six inches under all the edges it looks much better when the tile flows under the vanity. A grout joint around the vanity or quarter round just makes it look like a remodled room. I must agree with the gentleman about removing baseboard but I do so many houses where they tile up to them and use quarter round. Great stuff to cover up poor work. If you are going over a wooden subfloor you really should use a backer board remember to stager the joints also There are some new products out there pulled up several. It is hard to beat hardibacker type cement board have had a piece submerged in water several years and hasn't distorted yet try that with your wood subfloor.

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craigrobert

Location: gladwin, MI
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Posted:4/3/2009

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Am about to do entire bath. Floors,tub surround and walk in shower! This was really helpful but like they say, time will tell!!

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myprojects

Location: uppr marlboro, MD
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Posted:4/12/2009

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In doing a tiled walk-in shower on walls and floor over a solid concrete floor, do you have to lay in a shower pan (rubber sheet)before the backerboard.

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SSCHULTZ

Location: plover, WI
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Posted:4/22/2009

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regarding schmitty's comment...If you are SURE your subfloor is in good shape, can you tile over vinyl? If so, should you scuff it up? Or isn't it a good idea to even consider this?

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Photo 1: After disconnecting the toilet’s water supply, remove the closet-bolt nuts and carry the toilet out of the room.
 
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Photo 2: Peel up old vinyl sheet flooring, starting in one corner. Individual vinyl floor tiles must be removed one at a time.
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Photo 3: Use a flush-cutting saw to trim the bottom ends of all door frames so the backerboard and tile can slip underneath.
 
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Photo 4: Spread thinset mortar across the subfloor using a notched trowel. Then set a sheet of tile backerboard into the mortar.
 
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Photo 5: Secure the backerboard to the subfloor with 1-5/8-in. tile backerboard screws; don’t use regular drywall screws.
 
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Photo 6: Cover all of the seams between sheets of backerboard with fiber-reinforced backerboard tape. Cover the tape with thinset.
 
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Photo 7: Working in 2-ft. squares, apply thinset mortar to the backerboard with a notched trowel.
 
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Photo 8: Begin setting the tiles into the mortar, following the repeating pattern. Be sure to maintain even spaces between the tiles.
 
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Photo 9: Continue working your way across the floor, making sure to firmly press each tile down into the mortar.
 
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Photo 10: After the mortar cures, spread grout across the face of the tiles using a rubber float. Force the grout deep into the joints.
 
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Photo 11: Install a new wax toilet gasket. If necessary, use an extra-thick gasket to make up for the thickness of the new floor.
 
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The use of random-size ceramic tiles creates an attractive, eye-catching pattern that makes this small bath appear bigger.
 

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