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I think that is what RLAND said. After 1/1/2008
Maybe they are not illegal.
Stop the Cry'n and Do some Try'n
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yeah, why work when you can get the govt to give you what you need, you don't even need to be a legal american...LMAO!!! Now don't get me wrong, I believe everyone has the right & privilege to come to america, We all argee that's how most of us got here. They need to go thru the process, My grandparents on my dad's side came over from Germany thru Elis Island. They just need to do it the right way...
Coffee is best with a fine layer of sawdust on top
Kenn from Kennewick, Washington
Kenn's Den of Woodworking
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Kenndenn, You had best clairify you SAW DUST comment. What kind of SAW DUST.....Pressure Treated saw dust or what? Cherry sounds good.
ZIP San Antonio, Texas...[78212 for Map Users]... Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
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ANY kind a sawdust, a few carcinogens never hurt anyone... 
Coffee is best with a fine layer of sawdust on top
Kenn from Kennewick, Washington
Kenn's Den of Woodworking
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WELL SAID AND I AGREE 100% YOU MADE MY DAY. PUNJABE
watch what you hammer
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I talked to a police officer and he told me if they arrest them for loitering, they are profiling. All they can do is ask them to leave at the request of the store manager. I talked to the store manager and he told me he makes a call to the police everyday. They leave and thirty minutes later they all come back. Signs are posted and no one seems to be able to do anything. I like the idea of a community program with the letters INS or ICE. I'll have to give that some thought and see what we can come up with.
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Maybe some legal, non-Mexican heritage, people could stand around there when the police arrive. Then the police could check everyone for proper documentation. Arrest those that don't have proper ID for "trespassing" into the US. Then it wouldn't be considered profiling because the REAL Americans would be checked too. Heck, throw in some Native Americans too, just to mix it up a bit.
"The BikeBuilder" http://home.new.rr.com/bikebuilder/
If you can swim the length of Lake Winnebago from South to North and then walk another long mile - soaking wet - you found me.
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"Illegal Immigration" is an oxymoron. Immigration is legal. If one wishes to discuss illegality, call them what they are; Illegal Aliens! It is not impossible to round up the illegals if the agencies responsible did not have their hands tied by the influence of corporate greed. A lot more could be said, but it would be repetitious. What is needed is a "clean House and Senate!"
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My wife had to learn English read English and write English to become an American citizen which made her elegible to vote. So why are ballots printed in over 500 different languages? The Immigration service only has about 2000 agents whose job it is to track down and depot illegals, but local law enforcement can be trained to do it also.
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IMMIGRATION LAWS
1 There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.
2. All ballots will be in this nation's language.
3. All government business will be conducted in our language.
4. Nonresidents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are here.
5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office.
6 Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs. Any burden will be deported.
7.. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.
8. If foreigners come here and buy land ... options will be restricted. Certain parcels including waterfront property are reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.
9. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving of a foreign flag, no political organizing, no badmouthing our president or his policies. These will lead to deportation.
10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted &, when caught, sent to jail until your deportation can be arranged. All assets will be taken from you..
Harsh, you say?........
The above laws are current immigration laws of MEXICO
Stop the Cry'n and Do some Try'n
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Since our brilliant politicians see fit to spend our hardearned tax money, sending it to all these foreign governments....especially the ones that are stealing us blind with oil.......how about deducting about 20/30 thousand dollars from that amount for each of their lowlife illegals they send here....the money is for our having to catch and keep them and ship them back....maybe $50,000.00 each would be a better amount, really get their attention, besides .....it has a nice ring LOL Vote out this controling senate....or keep still, because as long as the pelooser and her buddies are there....you are going to have illegals...and same goes for obama and clinton..........McCain....him too sounds like!
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no# 11 new law on sending illegals back to their home land. T he us has a new airplane fitted for the safe return of said capture of non residents of the U.S.A.. the plane has a button on the console that reads release. when said bottom is pushed the entire passenger floor area is opened ans passengers are released over their homeland self . I do not think they will want to return again.
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THE ABOVE DIDN'T READ THE LAST LINE OF " IMMIGRATION LAWS"
The above laws are current immigration laws of " MEXICO"
# 11? WHERE DID THAT COME FROM SMFRNAH!!! READ!! SFB!!!
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The words to the poem inscribed on the Statue of Liberty has nothing at all symphonic to do with the Statue of Liberty. The poem, written by an evidently retarded Emma Lazarus, was written 17 years AFTER the Statue of Liberty was erected and some idiots creamed in their pants and decided it would be appropriate to have it inscribed on a plaque and mounted on the Statue. Ever since they put it on the Statue, people have erroneously thought it was a free pass for all imigrants coming to this country. And, being the crooks our elected officials have been for years, they readily agreed that this would be an ideal way for them to sneak people who had never seen freedom as we knew it in as voters, and who had never freely voted in their lives without someone forcing them to vote the way they wanted so they could start undermining our constitution. And just what do you all think has been happening for the last 70 or 80 years? Why do you think Bush met secretly 5 times with leaders of Canada and Mexico to discuss the three country union(SPP). According to the laws of our constitution, Bush had to have the ok of the Senate to do what he did and since he did not have that ok, he allowed himself to be wide open for treason charges filed against him. But evidently he knew there would be nothing done because he attended ALL FIVE MEETINGS WITHOUT A WORD OF DISSENT FROM THE SENATE. So now we have a government that is outsourcing jobs to a country that has been our biggest enemy for centuries and opening up our borders to riffraff that we have fought halfway around the world in the guise of the war on terrorism. And the American people are falling for the scam hook, line and sinker.
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....well there's a lot of people to blame for this mess in immigration matter, and I think for as long there's a need in shortage of labors and not enough natives or legal aliens to fill in, there will be a problem with illegal aliens coming, I would like to see in the coming years or months or days a native or legal aliens walking to the boss and say I'll take that job now, then the problem would be deleted, no jobs for illegals problem solve, they're turn around and go home. simple as that , ,,,,,, will it happen I wonder ,,, will john and Paul along with Steve leave their present job to do a less payable job. who knows only time will tell .. will people get off the system and drop the welfare dilemma and take a stand out there ,,, it is time for the people to stand their ground and say no to jobs to illegal aliens I'll take THAT job. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, only GOD knows what will happen tomorrow and the day after. .........
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I know of one company that got in big trouble,hired illegal immigrants.Most do not speak any English at all and have a kid as a translator.Most farms hired them in my area,cheap labor.I have one shirt and most people would agree with me.It says: Homeland Security,USA Speak English or get the &*^% out.I found it at a motorcylce swap meet for ten dollars.The Mexicans are the worse to deal a price on a car and my father knows about it.A couple of them were looking at a Dodge Intrepid 2 or 3 years ago my father was selling.My father shut the car off and locked the doors with the keys in his hands,they offered a lower price than my father wanted.Luckily they did not get it,my father knew a customer's daughter wanted it and sold it to her.
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why everybody says illegals get benefits from the gov. they don't even
claim income tax. or seek free benefits they don't have a credit to use and they are always staying out of trouble. yes I agreed that some idiots shouldn't be here because they can't control themselves, but after all
the Mexicans as people like to called them. are not Mexicans all of them
they are people that come here from the world to help the U.S economy by doing things that a few would dare to do, remember when you sit at the dinner table and sliced a vegetable , ask yourself where did this come from from the U.S.A. soil well if it came from here how come illegals went out there to get it, WHY is that? good question while
most people get home from their daily jobs and their family gathers together to eat and enjoys each other company. most illegals are just coming out of the fields coming with tomorrows vegetables and goods
they are infested with pesticides and who knows what else they were breathing there. yes there is a price for them to come here most of them
die trying along the way. But all good things eventually will come to an end the prices of vegetables will be double when it has to come from some other land. ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY FOR IT? illegals or not illegals are tired of all this matter and are moving to Canada or another country most are going back home. The GOV. knows what they are doing they are not stupid. and they are aware of it that's why they are still here ...................................
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ezzrotrick. The problem is not that they are here working, the problem is they are not doing it the right way and some even pay for documentation to prove identity and obtain loans on cars, houses, credit cards. The statement that they are doing jobs we americans wont do is skewed. The key word here is ILLEGAL and you are defending that? there are more than just "mexicans" here illegally. so if i stole your car i would be an illegal owner of your car and first i should feel offended you want it back because it was wrong to take it? and to boot i am now labled an owner? I dont have a problem calling a mexican a "legal alien" or by their name! I am courious what do you call a group of people in general you dont know or are speaking of from cuba? or America? or Britan? until they take the proper steps to contribute more than picking apples for a paycheck (or cash under the table) Illegal is illegal no matter how you spin it. I dont hate any race but I hate that I pay taxes and someone who isnt supposed to be does not. and appearantly picking veggies and fruits is extreemly easy work because i have filled out several forms in my life and they are very easy so if its so hard for the illegals to do that than my conclusion is that they are hear to only do the easy jobs and get paid their worth for such a job.
"All That Glitters isn't gold!"
Lifetime Member 2007 and Member since 1996 Springfield,MO
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What is it about Mexico that they refuse to say they are Mexicans or from Mexico? They claim to be Latinos and they say they are from Latin America. Illegals are still illegals no mater where they come from, anyway. If you go through the proper channels, Welcome.
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While most are coming in thru Mexico, many of them are from countries
in central America and South America, as well as Cuba, Haiti, and other
islands in that area. The're not all Mexican, but it's the Mexican
authorities who are ignoring the problem. They are doing nothing to
stop the drug trafficking, a lot of which is coming thru Mexico from
Columbia.
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Well the way it looks to me....... Out here with the hard time we are in now.... " THANKS GEORGE" Mexico looks better now. They're no where to be seen. Even last summer lot of white landscapers with degrees.
Stop The Cry'n and Do Some Try'n
Geneva IL. Member Since 1998
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Unforunatly, the United States of America has no official language, so items 1. 2. & 3. cannot apply here. Born in Ohio, live in New Hampshire.
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Not sure you can do much for illegal immigration now.....since we have one in the white house!!! imho 
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Just One State
This is only one State...............
1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has 10.2 million people)are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.
2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens. 3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens. 4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal , whose births were paid for by taxpayers. 5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally 6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages. 7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border. 8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal. 9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking. 10. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.
(There are 10.2 million people in L. A. County )
(All 10 of the above are from the Los Angeles Times)
Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare. Over 70% of the United States ' annual population growth (and over 90% of California , Florida , and New York ) results from immigration. 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.
Stop The Cry'n and Do Some Try'n
Geneva IL. Member Since 1998
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